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[8:37] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Martin Taal <martin.taal <at> openbravo.com> default * 3881:694e6eeccbde /src/org/openbravo/dal/security/SecurityChecker.java: Prevent NPE when checking security: writable organizations
[8:37] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Martin Taal <martin.taal <at> openbravo.com> default * 3882:188f21cc7181 /src/org/openbravo/dal/xml/EntityXMLConverter.java: Improved log.error message (incl. id of business object causing the error)
[8:37] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Martin Taal <martin.taal <at> openbravo.com> default * 3883:6e93a459562f /src/org/openbravo/service/db/ImportReferenceDataTask.java: Prevented pass-through of exception by only catching FileNotFoundExceptions
[8:37] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Martin Taal <martin.taal <at> openbravo.com> default * 3884:8a8e947d50c3 /src/org/openbravo/service/system/ (DatabaseValidator.java SystemValidationResult.java): Added checking of mismatches between DB and AD default values, check is disabled for now until related issues are solved
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[10:53] <gfather1> hello :)
[10:54] <gfather1> when is the General Localization chat ?
[10:56] <iarwain> gfather1: here.
[10:56] <iarwain> gfather1: it starts in 6 hours.
[10:58] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Asier Lostalé <asier.lostale <at> openbravo.com> default * 3885:5a7182d65abb /src-db/database/ (26 files in 2 dirs): fixed bug 0008964: Objects can be moved away from modules 'not in development'
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[11:00] <gfather1> iarwain thanks :)
[11:00] <iarwain> gfather1: np
[11:00] <gfather1> that will be 4 oclock for me :)
[11:01] <gfather1> its the time i get from offic , i hope ill be in home just n time
[11:03] <iarwain> ok, see you later then.
[11:10] <gfather1> hmm still didnt get my award , :( , i think its been like a month
[11:10] <gfather1> i hope it didnt get lost or something
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[13:01] <azabaleta> hi all
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[13:22] <huehner> hi azabaleta
[13:23] <azabaleta> hi huehner
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[13:31] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Asier Lostalé <asier.lostale <at> openbravo.com> default * 3886:e7734159f304 /lib/runtime/ (ojdbc6.jar ojdbc14.jar): fixed bug 0009067: Upgrade Oracle jdbc driver to 11g
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[13:39] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Juan Pablo Aroztegi <juanpablo.aroztegi <at> openbravo.com> default * 3887:d287ce0557a2 /legal/Licensing.txt: Update legal/Licensing.txt with the new Oracle JDBC driver name
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[13:52] <azabaleta> iarwain, can ant setup be executed remotely ?
[13:52] <iarwain> azabaleta: sure. That tasks only downloads a file.
[13:52] <azabaleta> I am executing it and this is what I receive
[13:53] <azabaleta> Unrecognized VM option 'MaxPermSize128M'
[13:53] <azabaleta> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[13:53] <iarwain> your ANT_OPTS looks wrong
[13:53] <azabaleta> ok :)
[13:53] <azabaleta> will look into it
[13:53] <azabaleta> thanks.
[13:54] <iarwain> MaxPermSize=128M
[13:54] <iarwain> np
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[14:02] <shor123> hi! Can anyone tell me on which revision 2.50 MP1 is based?
[14:03] <iarwain> shor123: on revision 2.50MP1
[14:03] <iarwain> it's a Hg tag
[14:03] <iarwain> https://code.openbravo.com/erp/devel/main/rev/b3f5aa9d80a9
[14:04] <iarwain> So 2.50MP1 is a tag pointing to 2697b580d266
[14:04] <shor123> iarwain: okay, so i have to compare the changeset of a fixed issue to that in order to know if it is already in MP1?
[14:05] <iarwain> you can take the last fix prior to the tag and check that: https://code.openbravo.com/erp/devel/main/shortlog
[14:13] <shor123> iarwain: thank you. i just recognized that i missed to look after the branch :-) (the issue was devel/pi)
[14:14] <iarwain> shor123: ah ok. changesets in devel/pi are transplanted or merged to main after they've passed some QA.
[14:15] <shor123> iarwain: okay. that means i have to do some patching now ^^
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[14:16] <abmed> hi all
[14:16] <iarwain> shor123: what version are you using?
[14:16] <abmed> i'm a new user of openbravo
[14:16] <gfather1> hay abmed
[14:17] <abmed> and i have a big problem whene a'm tring to install openbravo in eclipse
[14:17] <abmed> can you plz hlep me
[14:17] <abmed> ?
[14:17] <shor123> iarwain: i just downloaded the 2.50 MP1 Virtual Appliance
[14:18] <shor123> abmed: Could you describe which problem you are facing?
[14:18] <iarwain> shor123: ah ok. And are missing any fixes?
[14:18] <gfather1> abmed in eclipse ?
[14:18] <shor123> iarwain: Yes, the ones mtaal did for the DAL.
[14:19] <shor123> iarwain: e.g. https://issues.openbravo.com/view.php?id=8941#c16139
[14:19] <gfather1> abmed just install java sdk and the database you want
[14:19] <gfather1> and ull see openbravo installation is very easy
[14:19] <abmed> shor123 : the problem is whene a run eclipse.install.source
[14:19] <gfather1> then you could use eclipse to be openbravo sdk
[14:20] <abmed> shor123 : this error apear [javac] /Users/abmed/workspace/openbravo/openbravo/src-db/src/com/openbravo/db/OpenbravoDataFilter.java:15: cannot access org.apache.ddlutils.io.AbstractDatabaseFilter
[14:20] <iarwain> shor123: ah ok. Then yes, you'll have to get the raw patches and apply them.
[14:20] <abmed> gfather1 : : this error apear [javac] /Users/abmed/workspace/openbravo/openbravo/src-db/src/com/openbravo/db/OpenbravoDataFilter.java:15: cannot access org.apache.ddlutils.io.AbstractDatabaseFilter
[14:21] <gfather1> abmed do you have apeache tomcat installed ?
[14:21] <abmed> yep
[14:21] <abmed> i have a moacosx leapard 10.5.6
[14:21] <abmed> tomcat 6
[14:21] <abmed> jdk 6
[14:21] <abmed> and eclipse ganymed
[14:22] <abmed> and also postgres 8.3
[14:22] <gfather1> did you set every thing right ? , as the wiki says ?
[14:22] <shor123> abmed: did you set up the environment variables as described in the tutorial?
[14:22] <abmed> yes i'ma using the tutorial in wiki
[14:22] <gfather1> yes , that what i ment
[14:22] <abmed> yep
[14:22] <abmed> i realy dont know what's wrrong
[14:23] <abmed> and i have posted in a forum of openbravo
[14:23] <abmed> but no response
[14:23] <abmed> so i came here
[14:23] <shor123> abmed: so this is your post: http://forge.openbravo.com/plugins/espforum/view.php?group_id=100&forumid=549511&topicid=6994353 ?
[14:24] <shor123> abmed: if yes, than it seems there is something wrong with your classpath?
[14:24] <abmed> yes
[14:24] <abmed> ok
[14:25] <abmed> how can i fixed
[14:25] <shor123> abmed: are your J2EE module dependencies set up?
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[14:26] <abmed> is it in the turo
[14:26] <abmed> tuto
[14:26] <abmed> ?
[14:26] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Asier Lostalé <asier.lostale <at> openbravo.com> default * 3888:cd7606a2b9c8 / (src-trl/.classpath src-wad/.classpath): fixed bug 0009067: Upgrade Oracle jdbc driver to 11g. Fixed hardcoded references to jar.
[14:27] <shor123> abmed: yes, see Compilation issues
[14:28] <abmed> ok
[14:29] <shor123> abmed: Looking at your post, it says: class file has wrong version 50.0, should be 49.0
[14:29] <shor123> abmed: did you install jdk1.6 at a later point?
[14:30] <shor123> abmed: sounds like parts of the code are built with another jdk version
[14:30] <shor123> abmed: you could try to clean the project and set the java compiler compliance level to 1.5
[14:31] <shor123> abmed: afaik 50 stands for JDK1.6, 49 for JDK 1.5
[14:32] <abmed> i realy dont know what's happened
[14:32] <abmed> beceause a always use jdk 6
[14:32] <abmed> in my os
[14:32] <abmed> but i have also jdk5
[14:33] <abmed> but the default jdk in my os is jdk 6
[14:33] <shor123> abmed: okay, then re-check which jdk Eclipse is using!
[14:33] <abmed> ohhhhh
[14:33] <abmed> eclipse use jdk 5
[14:34] <abmed> :(
[14:34] <abmed> it's bad
[14:34] <huehner> abmed: set java_home before starting eclipse
[14:34] <shor123> abmed: okay - change that to 1.6 and have another try. Hopefully it works ;-)
[14:34] <abmed> yep yep
[14:34] <abmed> i think so
[14:34] <abmed> a big respect shorl23
[14:35] <shor123> abmed: You're welcome. Test it first before giving me respects ;-)
[14:36] <abmed> ok
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[14:54] <shor123> I just noticed that with MP1 the BigBazaar Sample Data is still needed for building. Will this be fixed? Should I open an issue for that?
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[15:41] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: David Baz Fayos <david.baz <at> openbravo.com> default * 3889:f616827e9a8a / (8 files in 2 dirs): Fixed bug 8975: Added new css for print purposes
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[16:16] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Stefan Hühner <stefan.huehner <at> openbravo.com> default * 3890:68ba24ee1a88 /src/org/openbravo/erpCommon/info/ (17 files): Fixed 8579: validate orderBy parameters, prepare ordering by multiple columns
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[16:25] <mib_0o3xon5r> hi
[16:25] <mib_0o3xon5r> how create module translation
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[16:40] <shor123> Is it possible to create a BOM for a configurable product?
[16:40] <shor123> E. g. Product Z is made up of A,B and C or D
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[16:41] <shor123> A customer buys Z and chooses C. Can a BOM created in that way that it uses A,B and C for production?
[16:43] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Stefan Hühner <stefan.huehner <at> openbravo.com> default * 3891:18d5d5bf9dde /web/js/openbravo/widget/DataGrid.js:
[16:43] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Fixed 5720: Hide Error received in IO response, when request is cancelled
[16:43] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: When a user switched tabs before the datagrid in the old tab is completely loaded, then the
[16:43] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: browser does cancel the old request. When reading the IO response the xhr object does signal
[16:43] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: this via http.status code 0 (which does not exist on the wire normally). This change does ignore
[16:44] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: this special http.status=0 and does not display an error in this case as the request was cancelled
[16:44] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: and the response not needed anymore.
[16:45] <azabaleta> shor123, this is not implemented
[16:45] <azabaleta> you need to have product Z and product W
[16:45] <azabaleta> Z has D and W has C
[16:45] <azabaleta> so either you sell W or Z, depending if the customer wants C or D
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[16:47] <shor123> azabaleta: alright. Thank you!
[16:48] <azabaleta> iarwain, what is wrong if executing ant war I get this ?
[16:49] <azabaleta> : /home/notroot/Desktop/OpenbravoERP-2.50/WebContent/WEB-INF/web.xml does not exist.
[16:49] <iarwain> azabaleta: it means it hasn't been compiled. So it cannot create the war file.
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[16:57] <azabaleta> hi josecarlos
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[17:01] <rmorley> Hello, welcome to the scheduled Openbravo Localization Chat.
[17:01] <ddeyris> Hello richard, i'm Daniel from france
[17:02] <rmorley> Hi Daniel
[17:02] <jmas> Hello folks
[17:02] <rmorley> Hi Jordi
[17:02] <jmas> Here is the information regarding the chat: http://richardatopenbravo.blogspot.com/2009/05/localization-of-openbravo-erp.html
[17:02] <rmorley> thanks
[17:03] <birosoft> greetings from Serbia
[17:03] <rmorley> we will wait a few minutes for people to join
[17:03] <rmorley> Welcome Serbia
[17:03] <rmorley> Its like the Eurovision!
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[17:04] <ddeyris> yes !! serbia 12 points !
[17:04] <vlad_lev> Vladislav from Russia
[17:04] <mib_1e3o9ydb> Hi birosoft
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[17:05] <birosoft> hello everybody shell we start
[17:05] <rmorley> Hi Vladislav
[17:05] <mib_1e3o9ydb> yes
[17:05] <obbug> Hi, Richard and Jordy!
[17:05] <rmorley> Hi everyone...lets get started
[17:05] <rmorley> The agenda we will address during the chat is:
[17:05] <rmorley> * An update on our own progress and experience of building the Spanish Localization pack using modularity in Openbravo 2.50
[17:05] <rmorley> * Other localization initiatives we are currently working on.
[17:05] <rmorley> * Using the Openbravo Forge for managing your localization projects...why it is a good idea to register your projects.
[17:05] <rmorley> * Any questions you might have relating to localization
[17:05] <rmorley> * Going forward; localization functionality and what is needed in core to support your efforts. Your suggestions....
[17:06] <rmorley> So, to the first agenda item
[17:06] <rmorley> * An update on our own progress and experience of building the Spanish Localization pack using modularity in Openbravo 2.50
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[17:07] <rmorley> So far we have delivered a community localization pack that consists of multiple modules.
[17:07] <rmorley> See http://forge.openbravo.com/projects/localizationpackspain
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[17:07] <mib_1e3o9ydb> birosoft
[17:07] <mib_1e3o9ydb> i can ask you question
[17:07] <rmorley> sure
[17:07] <birosoft> mib_*: yes
[17:07] <mib_1e3o9ydb> aboutyour sebian localization
[17:07] <birosoft> ok
[17:07] <mib_1e3o9ydb> ok
[17:08] <birosoft> ask it
[17:08] <mib_1e3o9ydb> i install your module
[17:08] <mib_1e3o9ydb> but
[17:08] <mib_1e3o9ydb> no changes in my OB instance
[17:08] <birosoft> I doen know why, because in my OB instance everything works ok
[17:09] <rmorley> could we take specific support type questions off line...or at least wait until the end of the agenda?
[17:09] <birosoft> Did you tried Spanich translation to install
[17:09] <birosoft> ok
[17:09] <birosoft> sorry
[17:09] <rmorley> no problem
[17:09] <rmorley> good point about the Spanish localization
[17:10] <rmorley> The modules that are part of that pack are:
[17:10] <rmorley> Spanish PYME chart of accounts -> Chart of accounts specifically for small and medium sized businesses.
[17:10] <rmorley> Spanish general chart of accounts -> Chart of accounts for non-PYME businesses.
[17:10] <rmorley> Spanish taxes -> All standard Spanish taxes, including IVA at 16%, 7% and 4%
[17:10] <rmorley> Spanish accounting alerts -> Alerts to notify users of accounting problems (for example if an attempt is made to post a transaction in a closed period).
[17:10] <rmorley> Spanish translation -> Translation of the user interface into Spanish.
[17:10] <rmorley> so plenty of opportunity to test and see how Openbravo has done it
[17:10] <rmorley> We would like to see that project as a reference point
[17:11] <rmorley> .....an example of what can be done
[17:11] <ddeyris> I plan to finish the french translation and the account chart for French Localization in 10 days
[17:11] <rmorley> Cool!
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[17:11] <franck_routier_> Will it be in the form of a moduile ?.
[17:11] <rmorley> packaged as a module I hope
[17:12] <franck_routier_> :)
[17:12] <rmorley> :)
[17:12] <obbug> I've just published Bulgarian Translation Modul at forge
[17:12] <franck_routier_> So do you suggest other projects try to mimic what was done for spanish project ?
[17:13] <rmorley> Great. We have been very pleased with using modularity ourselves
[17:13] <rmorley> The Spanish project is a good example
[17:13] <obbug> yes!
[17:13] <rmorley> it is also a great point of reference
[17:13] <rmorley> The pack installs extremely quickly and certainly speeds up the implementation time. Prevously loading all of this would have take hours to do manually. As modules it is a matter of a couple of clicks and waiting a few minutes!
[17:14] <rmorley> so we have been very pleased with the result
[17:14] <rmorley> I would encourage everyone to move onto modular development
[17:14] <birosoft> About speed I must disagree, or I'm doing something wrong
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[17:15] <birosoft> apply.module task takes about 45 minutes for me
[17:15] <ddeyris> richard, do you plan to complete the spanish sample with specials reports ?
[17:15] <rmorley> Yes....
[17:15] <obbug> No more then 2 min
[17:15] <mib_1e3o9ydb> yes
[17:15] <rmorley> what we have released is a V1
[17:16] <birosoft> but if I install module and build from OB instance it is much shorter
[17:16] <rmorley> it is our starting point for Spain
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[17:16] <rmorley> we are currently building two reporting packs
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[17:16] <rmorley> one for Spanish SMBs
[17:16] <rmorley> the other for larger Spanish companies....the tax reports are different
[17:17] <rmorley> we expect to have these available as packs in Q3
[17:17] <rmorley> each report will be a module
[17:18] <rmorley> I guess I can go on to the next agenda point....
[17:18] <ddeyris> thank Richard !
[17:18] <rmorley> * Other localization initiatives we are currently working on......
[17:18] <rmorley> We have recently embarked on a project to localize Openbravo for Germany, specifically German Universities.
[17:19] <rmorley> There are three main benefits of this project:
[17:19] <rmorley> a) on of the deliverables is to get the product certified to the German IDW 880 Audit Standard, which will benefit everyone.
[17:19] <rmorley> b) there are many features that need to be enhanced, including Dunning processes, Asset Management, Accruals Management, and Budget Management. These are generically useful and will also benefit everyone.
[17:20] <rmorley> c) Openbravo will have a specific vertical solution in Campus Management, including the specific processes involved in managing student debtors, etc.
[17:20] <rmorley> So there is a lot of potential benefit spinning off from this project.
[17:21] <franck_routier_> who else is involved in the project ?
[17:21] <rmorley> We are working with a German Government agency and they are very committed to opensource.
[17:21] <franck_routier_> great
[17:22] <birosoft> nice
[17:22] <rmorley> yes...I am very hopeful that there will be a lot of benefits for everyone coming out of this.
[17:23] <rmorley> so the Spanish and German initiatives are our current focus...
[17:23] <ddeyris> These 3 point are in the german localization project or in specific modules ?
[17:23] <rmorley> we will build then as specific modules
[17:24] <ddeyris> nice !
[17:24] <rmorley> anything that is "German specific" will be configurable
[17:24] <rmorley> so that you have the option to use it the "German way" or not
[17:24] <shor123> rmorley: Do you have a clue when the german localization will be finished?
[17:24] <rmorley> but I think that it is about 95% generic
[17:25] <rmorley> more than a clue....we have a very tight deadline
[17:25] <rmorley> we must deliver the Beta version by the start of next year
[17:25] <rmorley> we will then go into quite a long Beta program with 4 universities
[17:25] <rmorley> this will last most of next year
[17:26] <rmorley> so there will be improvements all next year
[17:26] <shor123> rmorley: okay, thank you!
[17:26] <rmorley> no problem....good question
[17:27] <birosoft> any wiki page about this localization yet
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[17:27] <ddeyris> We plan to work with ProcessMaker to solve some workflow problens in OpenBravo
[17:27] <rmorley> Right now I have it as a private project
[17:28] <rmorley> but I am thinking of changing it to a public one
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[17:28] <rmorley> so that the wider community can contributing to the design process
[17:29] <rmorley> I will let you know as soon as I change the status
[17:29] <ddeyris> nice richard !
[17:29] <birosoft> ok we will look forward
[17:29] <rmorley> :)
[17:30] <rmorley> great
[17:30] <rmorley> next point on the agenda
[17:30] <rmorley> * Using the Openbravo Forge for managing your localization projects...why it is a good idea to register your projects.
[17:30] <rmorley> I wanted to bang the Forge drum.... :)
[17:31] <rmorley> Check out http://forge.openbravo.com/plugins/mwiki/index.php/Localizationpackspain
[17:31] <rmorley> We have used this page to illustrate how you could promote your localization efforts.
[17:32] <franck_routier_> migration from old system to forge is a bit erratic for now...
[17:32] <rmorley> in what way?
[17:32] <franck_routier_> for example french localization project has not the same leader on both environments
[17:32] <rmorley> :)
[17:32] <ddeyris> yes i know !
[17:33] <franck_routier_> ddeyris, are you in touch with jules ?
[17:33] <rmorley> sometimes the leader has not been the first one to publish a project
[17:33] <ddeyris> i send him a mail but any answer
[17:33] <rmorley> if a leader is not keeping up to speed with their own community then I can change the leader
[17:33] <rmorley> I am interested in helping people that deliver
[17:34] <franck_routier_> we could talk about the french project offline then...
[17:34] <rmorley> yes..lets do
[17:34] <franck_routier_> great
[17:34] <rmorley> :)
[17:34] <birosoft> is this time for questions or we should wait
[17:35] <obbug> Wath abuot Intrastat Declarations? Will Openbravo support internationall codes for intrastat declarations?
[17:35] <ddeyris> ok Frank, conatct me by mail daniel.deyris@phidias.fr
[17:35] <rmorley> I would be very happy if someone we able to contribute intrastat
[17:35] <rmorley> functionality
[17:35] <franck_routier_> deyris: ok
[17:36] <rmorley> "were able to contribute"
[17:36] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Martin Taal <martin.taal <at> openbravo.com> default * 3892:3dac42f31231 / (4 files in 3 dirs): fixes issue 9000: References in the database without using foreign keys can go wrong in import:
[17:36] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Martin Taal <martin.taal <at> openbravo.com> default * 3893:7b5d4a62f221 /build.xml: generate.java.doc: javadoc also generated for srcAd, links to standard java types is included, increased allowed memory usage
[17:37] <birosoft> I think wiki page about localization has a small bug
[17:37] <birosoft> part about creating chart of accounts
[17:37] <ddeyris> richard, We plan to work on intrastat
[17:37] <rmorley> Perhaps we could share a project on the wiki?
[17:37] <rmorley> for intrastat
[17:38] <rmorley> do you plan do do a "generic" intrastat or French only?
[17:38] <birosoft> •Clear the Has reference data, Translation required and Is translation module options. It seems this is not true because I don't have my COA as option when I'm creating a new client
[17:39] <rmorley> Jordi?
[17:39] <birosoft> In Spanish COA project, field Has reference data is checked
[17:39] <ddeyris> French only for the moment
[17:39] <mib_1e3o9ydb> it is true birosoft
[17:39] <birosoft> but I wanted to use wiki page guidance to see what will happen
[17:40] <rmorley> regarding the wiki page guidance
[17:40] <birosoft> yes
[17:40] <rmorley> could you send me an email?
[17:40] <jmas> this looks like an issue with the Wiki content
[17:40] <birosoft> sure
[17:40] <rmorley> richard.morley@openbravo.com
[17:41] <franck_routier_> richard: in a mail you mentionned a guide "rachel" has created. More about that ?
[17:41] <rmorley> thanks
[17:41] <rmorley> Rachel leads our documentation team
[17:41] <rmorley> we are trying to improve the guidance we give to make the process as easy to follow as possible
[17:41] <ddeyris> Richard, just a point for the french forge, i'm leader on the old forge and i publish translation for the 2.4 version, but now impossible to publish in the new forge
[17:42] <rmorley> so if there are any gaps that we have not filled please let me know
[17:42] <birosoft> another thing I'm interested.
[17:42] <birosoft> In OB 2.50 there is no need to recompile it when import translations right
[17:44] <birosoft> it will be very useful to import translations time to time directly from module xml files instead of copying it to attachment\lang folder
[17:44] <birosoft> and then import it from that location
[17:45] <rmorley> have a look at http://forge.openbravo.com/plugins/mwiki/index.php/Localizationpackspain
[17:45] <rmorley> there is a section on importing translations as modules
[17:46] <rmorley> but as I say, if we have missed anything please let me know and we will sort it out
[17:46] <rmorley> regarding the Forge...another key tool at your disposal is the Forums.
[17:46] <rmorley> If the forum associated with your localization effort takes off in a big way then we will remap the Current Localization Projects on the Openbravo Wiki so that it points directly at your community project.
[17:46] <birosoft> yes but if I'm working on my module (it is in development right) then I want to import changes and see results often, and I don't want to waste my time for uninstall, install module
[17:48] <rmorley> this would be a good topic to discuss on the forums
[17:48] <rmorley> :)
[17:48] <rmorley> By that I mean that we will point anyone visiting http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Localization_Projects directly at the discussion forum for your community initiative. That can only be good for the visibility of your project!
[17:49] <rmorley> But I will do that only if the forum associated with your community initiative reaches a critical mass....
[17:49] <rmorley> .....that it is regularly used by the community you are leading
[17:50] <rmorley> One other thing I wanted to mention about the Forge.....
[17:50] <rmorley> Each project has the option to activate support.
[17:50] <rmorley> So there is an issue tracker associated with each project
[17:51] <rmorley> (if you choose to have it)
[17:51] <rmorley> IWe have activated support in the Forge at a module level, not at the pack level, because we thought it would give us greater visibility in tracking specific issues
[17:51] <rmorley> by that I mean that we have not activated the issue tracker at the "pack" level
[17:52] <rmorley> but we have activated it at the module level (each module that goes in to the pack has its own issue tracker)
[17:52] <rmorley> that was our own preference...
[17:52] <rmorley> we will see how it goes.... :)
[17:53] <rmorley> you may choose to do differently.....and have support active at the pack level
[17:54] <rmorley> I am going to swap the last two agenda items around so that questions come at the end...
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[17:54] <rmorley> * Going forward; localization functionality and what is needed in core to support your efforts.
[17:54] <rmorley> What I would like to have is feedback on any enabling functionality that you feel should be part of the core product.
[17:54] <rmorley> Intrastat may be one..... :)
[17:55] <ddeyris> yes !
[17:55] <rmorley> You may have seen the ideas page at http://openbravo.uservoice.com/pages/openbravo
[17:55] <rmorley> I am wondering if there is value in having a similar poll targeting localization functionality...
[17:55] <rmorley> Comments? / Thoughts?
[17:56] <franck_routier_> Yes, it could help coordinating the different localizations projects
[17:56] <franck_routier_> I guess many european project plan to add Intrastat for example
[17:56] <rmorley> Yes, I think that is right
[17:56] <ddeyris> In france, we always need "customer reminder"
[17:56] <rmorley> "Reminder" is part of the Dunning process we will build out for Germany
[17:57] <rmorley> so that is coming
[17:57] <ddeyris> nice !!!!!!!!
[17:57] <rmorley> Dunning = "Reminders & Statements"
[17:58] <rmorley> OK....I will look into it....what I think is important is to try and publish "current projects"
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[17:58] <rmorley> so that we don't duplicate what each of us is doing
[17:58] <franck_routier_> I didn't go indepth enougth yet, but I am concerned about some VAT rules
[17:59] <franck_routier_> (based on payment)
[17:59] <rmorley> VAT triggered by cash settlement?
[17:59] <franck_routier_> yes
[18:00] <rmorley> Yes....this is exactly the sort of enabling functionality that we would look at for adding in to core
[18:01] <franck_routier_> nice, go on (just kidding)
[18:01] <rmorley> what I would suggest you do is raise an issue at issues.openbravo.com and sent me the tracker number
[18:01] <franck_routier_> ok, i'll do that
[18:01] <rmorley> thanks
[18:01] <rmorley> OK
[18:01] <rmorley> last point....
[18:01] <rmorley> * Any questions you might have relating to localization
[18:02] <rmorley> Here I am open to questions...if you have any more... :)
[18:03] <rmorley> everyone "questioned out"?
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[18:03] <rmorley> OK guys....thanks for your time
[18:03] <birosoft> So I omitted to check has referenced data for my COA module
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[18:04] <birosoft> and now if I check it in module windows I should export.database again?
[18:05] <rmorley> I would suggest that you ask this type of question on the forums
[18:05] <franck_routier_> what is the path to make a 2.50 translation ?
[18:05] <birosoft> ok
[18:05] <franck_routier_> import 2.40, then export, then translate ?
[18:05] <rmorley> the mechanism is documented on the Wiki
[18:05] <franck_routier_> ok
[18:05] <rmorley> What we did was to uplift it to 2.50 and then translate
[18:06] <birosoft> so export import is still best way to do incremental translation
[18:06] <rmorley> there is a discussion forum for translation
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[18:07] <rmorley> if you don't get a clear answer from the forum then send me an email and I will get someone to help you out.
[18:08] <rmorley> is that OK?
[18:08] <ddeyris> Thank Richard
[18:08] <birosoft> yes it is
[18:08] <franck_routier_> thanks richard
[18:08] <ddeyris> yes it's OK !
[18:08] <rmorley> no problem....my pleasure
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[18:08] <rmorley> bye
[18:08] <birosoft> bye
[18:08] <ddeyris> bye
[18:08] <jmas> bye folks
[18:08] <vlad_lev> Good bye
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[18:15] <CIA-44> DBSourceManager: alostale * r322 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[18:15] <CIA-44> DBSourceManager: Fixes in API checking:
[18:15] <CIA-44> DBSourceManager: -In data: allow removals in AD_TexInterfaces table
[18:15] <CIA-44> DBSourceManager: -In model: allow new unique constraints in case all the columns for that constraint are new
[18:16] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Asier Lostalé <asier.lostale <at> openbravo.com> default * 3894:57b75c302369 /src-db/database/lib/dbsourcemanager.jar:
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[19:19] <azabaleta> iarwain, why OBN 2.40 does not execute backups in weekends ?
[19:20] <iarwain> azabaleta: ??
[19:20] <alinot> because is weekend and doesn't work ;)
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[19:24] <azabaleta> alinot, finally it was not that :)
[19:24] <azabaleta> just that backups were not beeing done since friday
[19:24] <azabaleta> so, fortunately OBN still works in weekends
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[19:25] <alinot> of course it does, it was just a joke! probably the guy who changes the types doesn't!
[19:27] <azabaleta> haha
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[20:02] <kna> If I select a product as a resource in the product type, does openbravo treat it differently?
[20:07] <azabaleta> can I access to the bugs fixed by 2.50 MP1
[20:07] <azabaleta> ?
[20:08] <azabaleta> http://forge.openbravo.com/plugins/espnews/browse.php?group_id=100&news_id=112 here I cant
[20:09] <katratxo> azabaleta: http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Openbravo_ERP_2.50_ReleaseNotes#Fixes_Included_in_ERP_2.50MP1
[20:20] <azabaleta> dogger than fog !
[20:20] <azabaleta> thanks
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[20:27] <CIA-44> OpenbravoERP: Iván Perdomo <ivan.perdomo <at> openbravo.com> default * 3895:7917e0249385 / (8 files in 4 dirs): Fixes issue 5712: Modified enable/disable Heartbeat through process scheduling
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[21:25] <salva> hi
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[21:30] <galderromo> hi
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