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[1:07] <CIA-48> Openbravo: dbaz * r13300 /trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Deprecated function auto_complete_time. Now is autoCompleteTime
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[4:55] <cyberjorge> hi dash how are we doing with your pos / quickbooks integration? :)
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[7:12] <cyberjorge> anyone help with the discount script
[7:12] <cyberjorge> nothing happens when clicking the buttons... :(
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[7:43] <Abiy> Greetings all
[7:45] <Abiy> iarwain: the install did not complete. any other suggestions?
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[8:02] <k_tarou> in OB 2.40 I try to follow the guide on the wiki to create a new jasper report, but when i try to access the report i've got message telling me that i don't have right to view it, I have setup the permission also but it doesn't work
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[8:41] <cyberjorge> hello
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[9:28] <CIA-48> Openbravo: alostale * r13301 /trunk/src-db/src/com/openbravo/db/OpenbravoDataFilter.java: Removed AD_PINSTANCE_LOG from OpenbravoDataFilter
[10:07] <galderromo> cyberjorge: what do you want to know about discounts?
[10:08] <cyberjorge> thanks for the response galdermo
[10:08] <cyberjorge> i can't apply discount on the products
[10:09] <cyberjorge> i tried the discount button script but no effect
[10:09] <galderromo> what type of discounts do you want to use? which button script?
[10:12] <cyberjorge> total price discount
[10:13] <cyberjorge> what i did is 3 buttons for 10%, 20% and 50%
[10:14] <galderromo> so, is not a core functionality but a particular development, right?
[10:14] <cyberjorge> i think yes
[10:15] <cyberjorge> since it's only a script, no changes on the main codes, recompiling
[10:17] <cyberjorge> galderromo: i followed code from this link...
[10:18] <cyberjorge> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Openbravo_POS_Scripting_Tutorial
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[10:19] <cyberjorge> I tried "Add a discount to the total of the receipt" and "Add a discount to the selected line" scripts but no success
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[10:29] <galderromo> so, you are talking about POS, I am afraid I can not help you...
[10:29] <galderromo> I thought you were talking about Openbravo ERP
[10:30] <cyberjorge> yes POS
[10:30] <cyberjorge> oh no, anyone here can help on POS
[10:30] <cyberjorge> it seems hard to find community support for the POS
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[10:46] <cyberjorge> jarekwozniak: hi, can't make the discount button work yet
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[10:46] <cyberjorge> :(
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[10:47] <cyberjorge> hi adrianromero
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[10:48] <adrianromero> hello cyberjorge
[10:48] <cyberjorge> adrianromero: any chance you can help me in openbravo pos?
[10:48] <cyberjorge> i'm trying to implement discounts, i can make the discount script work
[10:49] <cyberjorge> i'm using the 2.20 version, do we have the 2.30 ready anytime soon?
[10:50] <cyberjorge> 'm trying to implement discounts, i can't make the discount script work
[10:51] <cyberjorge> button is there but no discount being applied
[10:51] <adrianromero> As you probably know the release of Openbravo POS 2.30 has been delayed
[10:51] <adrianromero> The new release dates has been published
[10:51] <adrianromero> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Openbravo_POS_roadmap
[10:51] <cyberjorge> i understand
[10:51] <adrianromero> For the discount button. Did you follow the scripting tutorial?
[10:52] <cyberjorge> i did, don't know what i missed though
[10:52] <adrianromero> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Openbravo_POS_Scripting_Tutorial
[10:52] <adrianromero> cybergeorge: What is not working?
[10:53] <cyberjorge> the button is there but no changes in the price
[10:53] <cyberjorge> i'm using per line discount and another button for total discount
[10:53] <cyberjorge> if I make Script.Discount file where should I place that?
[10:55] <adrianromero> That file must be added as a resource
[10:55] <adrianromero> in the resources panel
[10:56] <cyberjorge> hmmm... i see
[10:56] <cyberjorge> will this be incorporated well in the 2.30?
[10:58] <adrianromero> This should also work in 2.20
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[10:59] <cyberjorge> but it says I can't use the total discount in 2.20, is there somewhere to download the new compiled svn?
[11:00] <adrianromero> That script example cannot be used in 2.20 because it uses methods not available in 2.20
[11:02] <cyberjorge> is there a script that will be compatible for the 2.20 that can apply discount on the total price?
[11:04] <adrianromero> Do not think so. At least an script that manages properly taxes
[11:04] <cyberjorge> :(
[11:05] <cyberjorge> so can I have a compiled version that can support the script?
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[11:05] <cyberjorge> sorry to ask too much, i'm no expert programmer though i can do minimally and all I need to proceed with my POS is a discount function
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[11:10] <adrianromero> do not worry. To test Openbravo POS 2.30 you can get the latest sources and build the binaries yourself
[11:11] <adrianromero> Here is a tutorial that helps how to build the Openbravo POS binaries from sources.
[11:11] <adrianromero> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/OpenbravoPOS_Developer_guide
[11:11] <cyberjorge> ok, i'll try that
[11:11] <cyberjorge> which SVN version you most recommend?
[11:11] <adrianromero> The sources of 2.30 are in the SVN repository.
[11:11] <adrianromero> in the trunk branch
[11:11] <adrianromero> svn version 1.5
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[11:12] <cyberjorge> ok
[11:12] <cyberjorge> one last thing before I try 2.30
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[11:13] <cyberjorge> which codes should i change in the discount script sample to reflect the discount i want to apply, starting the Discount per item line
[11:17] <cyberjorge> i'm getting..... com.openbravo.pos.scripting.ScriptException:
[11:17] <cyberjorge> Parse error at line 9, column 1. Encountered: index
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[11:56] <cyberjorge> welcome everyone!
[11:56] <cyberjorge> good to see bunch of people here :)
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[12:10] <cyberjorge> jarekwozniak: i have tried 3 button discount but i keep getting error w/c says "com.openbravo.pos.scripting.ScriptException: Parse error at line 9, column 1. Encountered: index"
[12:11] <cyberjorge> i am using "Add a discount to the selected line " script code, with this discount rate: "discountrate = 0.20"
[12:11] <girish12> I have problem in bank statement : How to create Payment for G/L Item through Bank So that The Accounting Entry goes to G/l Item Account and to bank
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[12:19] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, it would appear we've discovered yet another bug in hyperion, the ircd we run -- how we've managed to use it successfully for so long is now but a great mystery. The network is back up, for now, but in light of this we will be looking at bringing our ircd-change forward, details shall be forthcoming. Please accept my sincere apologies for the instability as of late and thank you for your patience.
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[12:19] <azabaleta> hi
[12:20] <girish12> I am Using OpenbravoERP 2.40
[12:21] <girish12> ?
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[12:22] <india> Hi Rafa
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[12:25] <girish12> I have problem in bank statement : How to create Payment for G/L Item through Bank So that The Accounting Entry goes to G/l Item Account and to bank
[12:25] <areef> Hi Rafa
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[12:25] <azabaleta> Rafas's fan club.
[12:26] <areef> Hi Sathiyan
[12:26] <iarwain> heh
[12:26] <areef> Hi Raj
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[12:27] <iciordia> Hi all
[12:27] <areef> Hi all
[12:27] <iarwain> hi
[12:27] <xxDaViDxx> hi
[12:27] <azabaleta> ↓^ ^
[12:27] <gorkaion> good morning
[12:28] <iciordia> Waiting for pjuvara :-)
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[12:28] * iarwain changes topic to 'Openbravo ERP/POS | Product development meeting at 10:30 GMT'
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[12:29] <iciordia> Martin, are you connected?
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[12:29] <cyberjorge> any POS guy here?
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[12:30] <rafaroda> Hi all
[12:30] <girish12> hi all
[12:30] <xxDaViDxx> Hello everybody
[12:31] <Rajagopal> Hello Good morning to everybody.
[12:32] <xxDaViDxx> here in Sangala now is the evening
[12:32] <Rajagopal> Hi everybody Paulo will be available in 5 minutes..
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[12:33] <pjuvara> Hi guys
[12:34] <iciordia> Hi
[12:34] <xxDaViDxx> Ave
[12:34] <pjuvara> sorry I am a bit late
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[12:35] <pjuvara> Should we start the product development team meeting?
[12:35] <iciordia> Sure
[12:35] <pjuvara> This is the first time that we do this meeting via IRC so let's see how it goes.
[12:35] <pjuvara> Everybody in the community is welcome to participate.
[12:35] <pjuvara> The agenda today is:
[12:35] <pjuvara> 1) Status of ERP production releases 2) Status of ERP 2.50 3) Status of POS 4) Q&A
[12:36] <pjuvara> Let's start with status of production releases.
[12:36] <pjuvara> We currently have 68 open defects affecting production releases. This is an improvement of 8 defects compared to last week and it is great news. We are not only able to keep up with the incoming flow but we are able to reduce it as well.
[12:36] <pjuvara> Good job.
[12:36] <pjuvara> The break down is:
[12:37] <pjuvara> 1 critical (same as last week)
[12:37] <pjuvara> 16 major (+2)
[12:37] <pjuvara> 44 minor (-8)
[12:37] <pjuvara> 7 trivial (-2)
[12:37] <pjuvara> Wanting to be critical, the critical defect 7493 (https://issues.openbravo.com/view.php?id=7493) has not been updated for a week.
[12:38] <pjuvara> The defect is assigned to alostale. Asier: can you please comment?
[12:38] <alostale> yes
[12:38] <alostale> I think that one shouldn't be critical
[12:39] <pjuvara> I agree. It is for support of Glassfish
[12:39] <iciordia> Who should take care of this?
[12:39] <iciordia> I mean, is Asier allowed to change the severity/priority?
[12:39] <alostale> I can do it (apply the patch) but not test it in glassfish
[12:39] <pjuvara> Well... to begin with, if we agree that it is not critical, we should do it.
[12:40] <psarobe> hi
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[12:40] <pjuvara> I mean we should downgrade the priority and be happy with that. In addition, if Asier can fix it, the better.
[12:40] <alostale> ok, i'll downgrade
[12:40] <iarwain> For me the problem it's not that it does not work for Glassfish. But that without th<t fix we don't comply with the Servlet standards.
[12:41] <pjuvara> That said, I am a bit confused. The user who logged it sent me a thank you email for having address this issue so fast...
[12:41] <alostale> iarwain, agree but it works in tomcat
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[12:42] <pjuvara> OK. So actions decided: 1) downgrade severity 2) when we have time, fix the issue so that it complies with the servlet standards and test in tomcat for regressions.
[12:42] <alostale> ok
[12:42] <pjuvara> Moving to ERP 2.50 status...
[12:42] <iciordia> Paolo: there should be a responsible for setting severity/priority (I guess triage team), they should review all new bugs reported
[12:43] <pjuvara> As you have seen in the openbravo-development list last Friday, we have relaxed the exit criteria in order to be able to freeze this week.
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[12:43] <pjuvara> iciordia: yes, it is the role of the triage team to verify that severity is been reported according to our guidelines and the set the priority accordingly.
[12:44] <iciordia> oks
[12:44] <pnuding> so if in doubt they should be the point of contact?
[12:44] <pjuvara> Just as a reminder, the guidelines for severity is published on the wiki
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[12:44] <pjuvara> yes, in case of doubt they should be the point of contact.
[12:44] <psarobe> we do all of that, thanks
[12:45] <cyberjorge> do we have localization for the Philippines in 2.5?
[12:45] <pjuvara> The guidelines are published at: http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines
[12:45] <pjuvara> cyberjorge: please hold on a second. I'll return to your question in a minute.
[12:45] <cyberjorge> thanks
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[12:46] <pjuvara> In general the reporter is responsible for setting the priority and we should not touch it but if it is obviously not compliant with the guidelines, the triage team should change it.
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[12:46] <jmas> cyberjorge: there was an effort (http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Localization_Projects#Philippines) but it has no produced deliverables and it is probably abandon.
[12:47] <pjuvara> cyberjorge: there is nothing new with regards to the Philippines localization in 2.50.
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[12:48] <psarobe> triagge team review every tuesday the new open bugs in mantis
[12:48] <cyberjorge> i know, i've been waiting for the restarting of the effort
[12:48] <pjuvara> Yes, it appears that the community localization has not made much progress in the Philippines. If you are interested in restarting that project, let us know.
[12:48] <psarobe> there are still new open bugs before the cut (saturday 14th)
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[12:48] <cyberjorge> what does the localization entail?
[12:49] <iciordia> All, I propose to follow the agenda described by pjuvara, if not it is going to be a mess
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[12:49] <pjuvara> iciordia: OK. cyberjorge: I will follow up with you later. Sorry.
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[12:50] <pjuvara> Let's go back to ERP 2.50 status.
[12:50] <cyberjorge> thanks pjuvara
[12:50] <pjuvara> As you have seen last Friday, we have relaxed the exit criteria in order to be able to freeze this week.
[12:50] <pjuvara> The new exit criteria is:
[12:50] <pjuvara> * Defects logged up to Feb 13th: 0 critical and major defect, less than 100 minor and trivial
[12:51] <pjuvara> * Defects logged after Feb 13th: 0 defects with urgent priority
[12:51] <pjuvara> * QA completed
[12:51] <pjuvara> * Upgrader ready
[12:51] <pjuvara> In terms of defects, we are doing OK.
[12:51] <pjuvara> As of last night we had a total of 151 defects to address (so, really 51 defects to go), with the following breakdown:
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[12:52] <pjuvara> * 4 critical
[12:52] <pjuvara> * 33 major
[12:52] <pjuvara> * 103 minor
[12:52] <pjuvara> * 11 trivial
[12:52] <pjuvara> Between Monday and Tuesday, we resolved about 30 defects, so with 3 days left we have a good chance of making it but we need to accelerate.
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[12:52] <iciordia> pjuvara, does it make sense to prioritize minor/trivial bugs reported before Feb 13th over major ones reported later?
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[12:53] <pjuvara> Let's try to close the 4 critical and 33 major logged up to Feb 13th and then let's take a stock of where we are.
[12:53] <iciordia> sure, that's makes sense
[12:53] <pjuvara> We can exchange some minor for some major if appropriate.
[12:53] <iciordia> oks
[12:54] <pjuvara> The key point is: we need to accelerate.
[12:54] <psarobe> what about the ones that are supposed to be resolved and QA reopen?
[12:54] <pjuvara> Please stay focused on this and make one last push to break through.
[12:54] <alinot> Related to the exit criteria, any commitment related to documentation?
[12:54] <pjuvara> Those need to be looked at on a one by one basis.
[12:54] <iciordia> Can we do a summary by scrum teams?
[12:54] <psarobe> ok
[12:55] <pjuvara> alinot: not by beta, but by production yes.
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[12:55] <pjuvara> iciordia: OK. Let me query: a second.
[12:55] <pjuvara> Actually...
[12:56] <pjuvara> can each scrum team self declare its status?
[12:56] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, It appears I may have been too harsh on hyperion -- this crash wasn't a segfault after all, but some of hardened gentoo's 'security' measures deciding that our ircd is a threat. More information will be provided on the blog when we have a better picture and know what actions will be taken to prevent this from occuring again. Thank you for using freenode and have a good day!
[12:56] <iciordia> Asier, can you report platform1?
[12:56] <alostale> ok
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[12:57] <alostale> platform 1: 40 open
[12:57] <alostale> 2 critical
[12:57] <alostale> 9 major
[12:58] <pjuvara> Thanks. Platform 2. Stefan?
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[12:58] <huehner> pjuvara: nedd one moment
[12:58] <iciordia> alostale: upgrader? demo data?
[12:59] <pnuding> ok, can community support go in the meantime? Rafa?
[12:59] <pjuvara> While Stefan queries, could Localization, Release Management and Community Support please prepare their status?
[12:59] <alostale> upgrader is now being tested by qa
[12:59] <rafaroda> pjuvara: calculating, one sec please
[12:59] <amedio> Localization team: 6 major - 1 minor
[12:59] <awolski> Platform 2: 32 bugs remaining, 4 major.
[12:59] <amedio> 2 major bugs are quite difficult to reproduce
[13:00] <awolski> Completed 14 bugs in this sprint.
[13:00] <iarwain> RM status: 0 issues.
[13:00] <amedio> we are trying to reproduce an track them
[13:00] <iciordia> Each team should flag if they think they can not finish by next Friday
[13:00] <pjuvara> amedio: what are the numbers?
[13:00] <amedio> 0007404 - 0007433
[13:01] <amedio> we will try to reproduce them
[13:01] <amedio> but still couldn't
[13:02] <pjuvara> OK. I understand that 7404 only reproduces on 2.23 so it is not relevant for 2.50. 7433: can plujan reproduce it?
[13:03] <amedio> vixtor and plujan are now discussing the issue
[13:03] <pjuvara> Besides this, does everybody feel that they can finish by Friday?
[13:04] <pjuvara> If not, please flag it as Ismael is requesting.
[13:04] <rafaroda> Community Support team: 61 which critical 1 and 20 major
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[13:04] <plujan> About 7433, we should discuss with victor about it
[13:04] <iciordia> For cases like 7404 I think that the reporter should share his/her environment to be able to trace the problem, if not it is impossible
[13:04] <pjuvara> iciordia: agree.
[13:05] <huehner> pjuvara: unknown for two major ones, one open for discussion with ismael (5625), on is obn pending feedback (7572)
[13:05] <amedio> even sharing the environment is quite complex to know why as if you launch the process again the error doesn't remain
[13:05] <pjuvara> Also 2.23 is not a supported release (there is no OBN on that) so we can only fix things on a best effort basis.
[13:05] <amedio> ok
[13:05] <iciordia> Then we should reject the bug?
[13:05] <huehner> pjuvara: fisish by friday per team means? resolve major ones, what about number of minors?
[13:06] <pjuvara> huehner: I mean both.
[13:07] <pjuvara> We have 4 active teams: if each team reaches less than 25 minor and trivial, we are golden.
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[13:07] <amedio> then issues should be reassigned
[13:07] <pjuvara> OK. What about QA? Could psarobe comment?
[13:07] <amedio> as my team has 7 pending
[13:08] <psarobe> right now we are testing financail
[13:08] <huehner> pjuvara: platform 2: <= 25 by friday should be ok, the two major knoes flagged above unknown
[13:08] <psarobe> and the upgrade of 2.50
[13:08] <pjuvara> amedio: I assume that you meant that your team can take more. Great!
[13:09] <psarobe> platform just give us the 240 intance updated
[13:09] <amedio> we will have to descope things from sprint
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[13:09] <amedio> ;(
[13:10] <psarobe> we should be able to finish the financial testing before friday if no major bugs are found
[13:10] <psarobe> and the functionanl testing of the 240 updated intance
[13:10] <pjuvara> amedio: focus on your sprint. If another team requests help, we will assign defects to you and descope things from the sprint but for now focus on what is on your plate. Thanks!
[13:10] <amedio> cool
[13:11] <pjuvara> amedio: also, given that financial testing is going on, more issues might be coming your way :(
[13:11] <amedio> we hope not
[13:11] <amedio> :D
[13:11] <iciordia> It seems to me that all teams are at high risk with the current exit criteria
[13:12] <amedio> if new bugs are comming, shall we fix them??
[13:12] <amedio> it is supposed that new bugs from 14th are not taken into account
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[13:13] <pjuvara> amedio: if new bugs are coming *and* QA sets them to priority urgent, yes please: fix them; otherwise not.
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[13:13] <amedio> ok
[13:13] <amedio> undestood
[13:13] <pjuvara> iciordia: the risk is indeed high; proposals?
[13:14] <iciordia> Imo we should focus on critical/major bugs, and exit criteria should be 0 critical/major before feb 13th, and not show stoppers
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[13:14] <iciordia> So if on Friday we have 120 minor/trivial open bugs, I would publish
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[13:15] <iarwain> it dependes if the exist criteria is baed on time or in quality...
[13:15] <iarwain> *exit
[13:15] <iciordia> Imo it should be based on time for a given quality :-)
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[13:16] <iarwain> what that does mean? :)
[13:16] <xeraf> It would be easier to publish the Beta today. If we are going to continue changing the exit criteria...
[13:16] <pjuvara> Well, the exit criteria needs to be based on quality but time is also important so it is a compromise. The exit criteria that we had last week was simply
[13:16] <pjuvara> unreachable.
[13:16] <pjuvara> We would have been in alpha for ever.
[13:17] <pjuvara> The current exit criteria is based on quality but because it has a cut off (after 12 weeks of alpha) it is a known quantity + a handful of exceptions.
[13:17] <pjuvara> We should aim at reaching at least that.
[13:17] <azabaleta> why is not acceptable 1 extra month delay it it means that the beta is quite stable?
[13:17] <xeraf> And what would that mean (alpha forever)? That the quality is not yet good enough.
[13:18] <pjuvara> If on Friday we cannot, then we will see where we are and take a decision. If it is a few extra days, we can deal with that. If it does not converge, then we have a problem.
[13:19] <pjuvara> xeraf: not necessarily. The quality might be good enough but we might still be getting a lot of issues coming in and not be able to solve them.
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[13:19] <iciordia> I disagree that a fixed number of minor/trivial open bugs is a fair metric of quality
[13:20] <xeraf> What do you think is a fair metric of quality?
[13:20] <iciordia> There are very high quality products with thousands of minor/trivial bugs...
[13:20] <plujan> if former exit criteria was not a quality metric, why we based release on it?
[13:21] <plujan> I agree with xeraf, we can simply publish today
[13:22] <pjuvara> Guys: I think this discussion is not productive. The measure of quality is somewhat an arbitrary goal. The ones that we had last week was decided about a year ago without giving much thought.
[13:22] <iciordia> I don't because there are show stoppers (critical/major bugs) that really decrease quality of the product
[13:22] <pjuvara> The practice proved that it was not practical and we are changing it to something that addresses the problem that we faced. I think we are doing the right thing but we can discuss forever what could be a good metric.
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[13:23] <pjuvara> So, please, let's stick the the ones that we proposed above. It gives a good provision for a) cleaning the backlog of old stuff; b) giving QA the flexibility to request fixes for as many showstoppers the feel are needed.
[13:23] <xeraf> You may think is arbitrary. But I think we do need an objective way of deciding when we publish Beta and when not. The metric may be somewhat arbitrary but we should stick to it.
[13:24] <xxDaViDxx> I think change the metric every time we need to change it based on time is like cheating
[13:24] <pnuding> I think it can make sense to modify quality criteria under given circumstances
[13:25] <pnuding> we just have to be careful about it
[13:25] <pnuding> if you are very thirsty, you might have different criteria for water quality than when you are not
[13:26] <pjuvara> Any other opinion on the topic?
[13:26] <xxDaViDxx> pnuding then we should think why are so thirsty
[13:26] <iciordia> I propose to open a thread discussion about this topic, to be able to go ahead
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[13:27] <pjuvara> OK. Let's go ahead.
[13:27] <alinot> I personally prefer having a better "beta" one week later.
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[13:27] <pjuvara> Can we get a status on the upgrader?
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[13:28] <alostale> we have a customized 2.40 upgraded to 2.50
[13:28] <alostale> and now qa is testing it
[13:28] <psarobe> from QA, platform has just given the 250 version to start testing
[13:28] <pjuvara> Cool. Thanks.
[13:28] <psarobe> the testing woulb be from a functional perspective
[13:28] <psarobe> ensure what it works in 240 works in 250
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[13:29] <iciordia> Also we will test that the model is complete, and that there is no data loss
[13:30] <pjuvara> Great.
[13:30] <psarobe> AMO should test the model and data loss
[13:30] <psarobe> right?
[13:30] <iciordia> yes
[13:30] <MarvinTM> ok
[13:30] <psarobe> and what about his pendings bugs?
[13:31] <iciordia> we will manage to do both
[13:31] <pjuvara> Those too.
[13:31] <iciordia> yes
[13:31] <MarvinTM> ok :)
[13:31] <plujan> will upgraders testing be ready for this friday?
[13:31] <psarobe> yes
[13:31] <psarobe> i hope
[13:31] <plujan> cool
[13:32] <pjuvara> OK. Next topic.
[13:32] <iciordia> Also, demo data has been prepared to be included in openbravo distro's
[13:33] <pjuvara> Ah I had forgot to ask about that. Thanks, that's great.
[13:33] <iarwain> Yes. RM has now the demodata. The integration test into the appliances has not been done yet.
[13:33] <iarwain> Will be this week.
[13:33] <pjuvara> iarwain: thanks.
[13:34] <pjuvara> Next topic: POS. Adrian can you please write about it?
[13:34] <adrianromero> Hello. Yes
[13:34] <adrianromero> These are the news and status of the development of Openbravo POS.
[13:34] <adrianromero> Problably most of this status is already known but I am going to repeat it again to be sure that everybody knows it
[13:34] <adrianromero> The release of Openbravo POS 2.30 has been delayed because of priority changes and the new release dates has been published
[13:34] <adrianromero> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Openbravo_POS_roadmap#Openbravo_POS_2.30_.28February_2009.29
[13:35] <adrianromero> The development of all the important features of this release like the new integration architecture between Openbravo POS and Openbravo ERP, the PDA module for restaurants and the product attributes support is already finish, and we expect to release on time.
[13:35] <adrianromero> The next release we plan to upgrade the licence of Openbravo POS from GPL v2 to GPL v3. This is a natural move that will not change the commitment of Openbravo with all the Openbravo POS community.
[13:36] <adrianromero> Related to the status for issues. This is the chart for the issues pending and fixes the last week
[13:36] <adrianromero> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pWEbJ3VuNci0-7pcXvhrLSQ&oid=1&output=image
[13:36] <adrianromero> Just to say that the issues number stays low.
[13:36] <adrianromero> And related to the status of support to the community in the forums, this is the chart for the last week
[13:36] <adrianromero> http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pWEbJ3VuNci0-7pcXvhrLSQ&oid=5&output=image
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[13:37] <adrianromero> The total of messages has increased a litte bit, and the ratio of messages posted by the Openbravo POS team remains stable.
[13:37] <adrianromero> And nothing else from the Openbravo POS team.
[13:37] <adrianromero> Questions?
[13:37] <pjuvara> Thanks, Adrian.
[13:38] <pjuvara> This concludes the list of prepared topics. Any question?
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[13:39] <azabaleta> So we all know, finally what will be the exit criteria for the 2.50 Beta? Sorry but I finally didnt understand.
[13:39] <xxDaViDxx> just one suggestion... if there is this huge quantity of bugs, I would stay focused on that next week too in order to not have the same problem when we want to froze production
[13:40] <iciordia> All, I've created in Open Discussion forum a thread to discuss the exit criteria: https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3019632&forum_id=549510
[13:41] <pjuvara> iciordia: thanks.
[13:42] <alinot> I am very interested in es_ES localization. Will also this localization (for 2.50) be ready for this Friday?
[13:43] <pjuvara> The exit criteria for now remains the same as I mentioned at the beginning of the meeting (0 critical and major; less than 100 minor and trivial logged up to Feb 13th - 0 urgent logged afterwards). I will consider the suggestions in the forums very carefully and perhaps change if appropriate.
[13:43] <pjuvara> alinot: excellent question.
[13:43] <amedio> No alinot. It will not be ready for this friday
[13:43] <pjuvara> When will it be ready for?
[13:44] <amedio> whenever it is ready we will anounce it in spanish forums
[13:44] <CIA-48> Openbravo: alostale * r13306 /trunk/src/org/openbravo/erpCommon/utility/ (UsedByLink.java UsedByLink_data.xsql): fixed bug 0007506: The linked items button does not work if the column that referes the document has a name different than TABLENAME_ID
[13:44] <pjuvara> Any projection for the translation and coa as modules?
[13:44] <txasu> I remember the post of Spanish localization http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1578592&forum_id=597808
[13:44] <amedio> COA can be packaged into a module easily
[13:45] <galderromo> what is COA?
[13:45] <amedio> but translation needs much more effort
[13:45] <txasu> Chart Of Accounts
[13:45] <pjuvara> chart of accounts
[13:45] <amedio> we are starting to addapt 240 translation for 250+
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[13:45] <CIA-48> Openbravo: marvintm * r13307 /trunk/src-db/database/ (build-create.xml build.xml): Fixed issue 7562. Now build will fail if postcreate or postupdate tasks fail. This will ensure that import of masterdata and sampledata do not fail later on in the process.
[13:45] <amedio> whenever it is ready we will anounce it in spanish forums
[13:46] <pjuvara> OK.
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[13:47] <galderromo> is there any translation module ready as example? Not important, just to see how it works.
[13:47] <pjuvara> cyberjorge: getting back to you. The details on how to prepare a localization are detailed at: http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/How_To_Localize
[13:47] <pjuvara> Not yet.
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[13:47] <alinot> Thanks for you information, looking forward to test es_ES module
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[13:49] <pjuvara> OK. We intended to time box the meeting to 60 minutes and we are 90 now. I would propose to conclude the meeting here. Obviously the channel stays open for people who want to continue chatting.
[13:49] <pjuvara> Byes
[13:49] <iciordia> bye
[13:49] <txasu> Great! Bye
[13:49] <huehner> thx. bye
[13:49] <areef> Thx Bye
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[13:50] <pjuvara> Thanks everybody for the lively participation! :) Very happy.
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[13:55] <alinot> bye
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[14:23] <CIA-48> Openbravo: alostale * r13310 /trunk/src-db/database/model/triggers/AD_COLUMN_TRG2.xml: fixed bug 0007623: Columnname check is not following the modularity rules
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[14:43] <CIA-48> Openbravo: gorkaion * r13311 /trunk/src-db/database/model/functions/C_PAYMENTDUEDATE.xml: Fixed bug 7033. Modified the day of the week calculation to ensure that saturday and sunday are always days 6 and 7.
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[17:17] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: mirurita * r469 / (22 files in 2 dirs):
[17:17] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: Fixes issue 0005356: ERP-POS Improvement of synchronization (update
[17:17] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: transformations)
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[18:03] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: mirurita * r470 / (4 files in 2 dirs):
[18:03] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: Fixes issue 0005356: ERP-POS Improvement of synchronization (update
[18:03] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: transformations)
[18:05] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: mirurita * r471 /trunk/transformations/Cutomers.ktr: Fixes issue 0005356: ERP-POS Improvement of synchronization (update)
[18:19] <CIA-48> Openbravo: hennadzi * r13323 /trunk/src-db/database/sourcedata/AD_REF_LIST.xml: Fixed bug 0006862: Two entries for the same payment method
[18:20] <CIA-48> Openbravo: anthony.wolski * r13324 /trunk/src-db/database/sourcedata/ (AD_COLUMN.xml AD_FIELD.xml): Fixes issue 7602. Process Request grid cleaned. Saved requests displayed. Moving other problem to new issue.
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[19:02] <CIA-48> Openbravo: huehner * r13325 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[19:02] <CIA-48> Openbravo: Fixed 7173
[19:02] <CIA-48> Openbravo: - add code to mark individual ajax-requests as to be ignored for the session timeout
[19:02] <CIA-48> Openbravo: - for now only ignore the checkAlert request for session timeout instead of all ajax requests
[19:03] <CIA-48> Openbravo: anthony.wolski * r13326 /trunk/src-db/database/sourcedata/AD_COLUMN.xml: Resolved dal validation problem on AD_PROCESS_REQUEST.channel
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[19:16] <CIA-48> OpenbravoPOS: mirurita * r472 /trunk/ (28 files in 18 dirs): Fixes issue 0005356: ERP-POS Improvement of synchronization (ERP module)
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[19:22] <Tiberio> hi, where can I find Calc OpenOffice, or Excel MS Office, to data import process?
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[19:39] <CIA-48> DBSourceManager: marvintm * r247 /trunk/src/org/apache/ddlutils/platform/postgresql/PostgreSqlModelLoader.java: Fixed issue 7179. DBSM will now be able to correctly read the size and scale of numeric columns.
[19:39] <CIA-48> Openbravo: marvintm * r13332 /trunk/src-db/database/lib/dbsourcemanager.jar: Fixed issue 7179. DBSM will now be able to correctly read the size and scale of numeric columns.
[19:41] <CIA-48> Openbravo: alostale * r13333 /trunk/src/org/openbravo/erpCommon/utility/ChangeAudit.java: fixed bug 0007605: Debug window when audit info is enabled
[19:44] <CIA-48> DBSourceManager: marvintm * r248 /branches/r0.8x/src/org/apache/ddlutils/platform/postgresql/PostgreSqlModelLoader.java: Fixed issue 7179. DBSM will now be able to correctly read the size and scale of numeric columns.
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[19:59] <CIA-48> Openbravo: gmauleon * r13334 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixes 0007549: Hebrew ISO code is not correct
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[20:13] <CIA-48> Openbravo: vmromanos * r13338 /trunk/src-db/database/model/functions/AD_ORG_READY.xml: Modified AD_Org_Ready procedure to create periodcontrol records when cascade is selected
[20:42] <CIA-48> Openbravo: dbaz * r13341 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed bug 7109: Now hour fields are autocompleted to avoid misunderstandings
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[20:55] <CIA-48> Openbravo: marvintm * r13342 /trunk/src/org/openbravo/base/model/NamingUtil.java: Fixed issue 7665. Export.database should not fail anymore with an exception in the method camelCaseIt.
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[22:33] <newzen> hi i have a new fiscal printer Bematech MP-2100 TH that have drivers for linux and windows. Some boby can help me how can i use this for openbravo pos
[22:36] <newzen> there is the printer page http://www.bematech.com/es/support/default.asp
[22:38] <newzen> no body can help?
[22:49] <CIA-48> Openbravo: dbaz * r13343 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Updated revision control changes number
[22:55] <newzen> really no one want to help?
[22:55] <huehner> newzen: i guess more that no pos-knowing people aroun at the moment
[22:56] <newzen> huehner: ok thx
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[23:45] <CIA-48> Openbravo: mtaal * r13346 /trunk/src/org/openbravo/base/model/NamingUtil.java: Removed method which was not used anymore
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